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I'm going to say here and now that Rose _does not die_ at the end of the series. It's too obvious at this point - actress leaving, prophecy of DOOM, her arc's played out. I'm guessing Rose either leaves in some sort of triumph, decides to go home, or possibly gets stuck on the wrong side of the dimensional barrier (if the alt-universe Cybermen do come back).

i love doctor who and i dont like waitin for the next series cud u make a clip showing the monsters that are in the next one and say hi for me to the doctor

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in the sphere which is shown in the army of ghosts trailer is the.........

SPOILER WARNING

a dalek, do you remember episode 6 series 1 with the dalek who killed itself well..... it didnt it teleported!

rose tyler does die

the cybermen and the daleks circle round rose. they all get ready to fire at each other rose realises if she wants to save the doctor and the world she has to die. the cybermen and the daleks shoot eachother and in the process rose dies. then so does the cybermen and the daleks.

watch out for the black dalek and the cybermen with the black handlebars!!

doctorwholius rulius!

hey, personally i dont think rose will die because i read this interview and she said she was filming season 3 in 2 months so how is that possible!
But, the magazine can lie i suppose!
I hope she dosent die or leave the show though!

So do I! I wonder who'll take her place! Hey, Jackie is going to kill the Doctor when Rose 'dies'. I read that she's coming back too, but then again if Daleks, Cybermen and Cassandra can come back then why can't she?

I don't think Rose will die because they wouldn't make it so obvious by saying 'this is how i died' right at the beginning or it would spoil it. I don't want Rose to die but it would be exciting. Can't wait while Doomsday next Saturday!!!

"if Daleks, Cybermen and Cassandra can come back then why can't she?"

They were never really gone.

hi rose wont die in the normal sense coz that would be to obv! i reackon shes on about how her old self has died, a symbolic thing ya no coz remeber jakie sed your not the same person and then she goes on about a gril on a planet somewhere that isnt rose anymore

lol, i love doctor who but how comes he cant just go back in time and get rose!!

Because, if you can remember back to that episode where Rose saves her dad, both the doctors would see each other then there'd be loads of flying time monster things all over again.

I reckon Rose will die and then the doctor will some how get her back to life and mickey will start travelling around with the doctor if he doesnt die

ye i agree with chris. ive bin saying all along i think it's a metaphor, cos how could she narrate her own death? i think the hole think is a big publicity thing, like the quote in the episode page - shes not rose tyler anymore - and in the end it was jackie who said it! and i dont belive the spoiler either, cos according 2 wikipedia, the doctor has 2 make an impossible choice, cos saving the world COULD mean the end of rose tyler. so 2 be honest, i really just dont fnk shes gonan die! its all a bit 2 obvious.

what a wonderfull episode last night after the football i needed that.Cybermen we knew about but Daleks I thought the reports were not true as RTD had not said anything as Mickey returning well no idea total shock. As for Rose dying I dont think she does its just her telling a story later. I hope she goes off with Mickey and Pete Tyler stays with Jackie now he is the sucsessfull Pete she always wanted but who knows. God I wish it was Saturday.

hi ppl

rose will probably die because why would they want 2 trick u well unless they r desperate 4 veiwers i think she will die because it is a brilliant story well thats my oppinion .

she wont die i think she'll just leave the series coz she doesnt want to change altogether, sinse she is leaving at the end of the series.

Billie Piper once said that she is "leaving for now at least"... which might mean she doesn't die, as the door has been left open for her.

there is a rumor that Rose appears to die and the doc thinks shes dead, gets a new companion ect.. Then in the christmas special the face of boe reveals his secret-Rose is not dead. Then the doctor searches for her so she migth be in bits of the next series.....
just a rumor though....but I REALLY hope its true!

im going to miss her loads, she had it all, she was original, cool, feisty.
the new assistant as they siad would become the black women in the second to last episode, the one who is brain washed by the cybermen first.
i do not think she will do such a goood job, she will not really laeve up to billy, neither has she got anything different to offer. she will probably be too nice, and annoying.

im going to miss her loads, she had it all, she was original, cool, feisty.
the new assistant as they siad would become the black women in the second to last episode, the one who is brain washed by the cybermen first.
i do not think she will do such a goood job, she will not really laeve up to billy, neither has she got anything different to offer. she will probably be too nice, and annoying.

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"the new assistant as they said would be the black women in the second to last episode, the one who is brain washed by the cybermen first"

Um, the Doctor killed her mate...he had to.

I don't think you should try and predict what happens, lol it was so funny looking back at some of the predictions of the last episode...
someone said they'd be no previous seen doctor who bad guys at all. How wrong they were.

By the way is it just a strange coincidence that the Daleks are protecting something called the Genesis Ark in the new trailer?
Only that in the fourth series (Tom Baker) There was an episode called Genesis of the Daleks.

Just a hunch here. But I suspect that Rose will be forced to "Prepare for Cyber Conversion"....or I guess now it's "Prepare to be upgraded." Just a hunch. To the best of my knowledge the only companion to die was Adric (I could be wrong). So why not Cyber Convert Rose. It would be interesting, he's never lost a companion that way, and we could have a Cyber-Rose in the future at some point who's mostly freed from the Cybermen. It would also be somewhat ironic if AU Jackie Tyler is the one that upgrades her.

how do you know whats going to happen days before the episode airs????

Adric wasn't the only companion to die, The first doctor had a companion die in the Daleks Master Plan, I think her name was Katrina. Personally, I think Rose's departure will have something to do with her having looked into the Time Vortex at the end of last series, maybe she doesn't die but transcendes to become the Bad Wolf, or have I just been watching to much Stargate?

She can't be upgraded by jackie tyler in PU because jakie died in the factory when it exploded. Anyway, does anybody think Mikey will die?

billie said that 'no one stay's dead in sci fi' so whether that's a hint... i thought the face of boe would say something about the time lords but he could say something about rose though i don't see why he'd just leave her. Mickey has to survive! they kept his return very quiet so imagine what else they can keep from us!

when do you have the cyber men toy

and also, i think the 3 daleks survived the bad wolf's destrustion of them because they were in the void at the time which is excluded from time and space and she only said for time and space not 'the void'!

OR most likely

1: They came from an alternate universe

2: They wern't in the war

Plus the fact there are loads of daleks in doomsday

Did anyone see the advert where the cybermen says to the daleks: "Together we could upgrade the universe"

And the dalek responds: "You propose an allience?"

but only 3 came out of the sphere. 2 bronze one black

You'll see there are more on saturday.

i just wanna know if the daleks and the cybermen do join forces or not

im not sure rose will die literally becuz on the bbc website it normally has quotes from the episodes that are on later in the week... atm it says "she's not rose tyler...not anymore" so i think that her 'soul' mite die not her physical body. she mite bcum sumthin els.

Im not sure, i reckon she gets killed by darleks, but do you remember that in the last or second to last episode in series 1, that Rose could bring back to life the people the darleks killed... so im guessing that may happen again...

Oh yeh on Radio 1 i heard that Billie Piper was going to play some part in series 3... i dunno whether there is any truth behind that so...

Well, you lot hav got sum gud stuf 2 say bout Doomsday an sum of u are speaken crap! If you look at the 2007 annual of Doctor Who you will see loads an loads of Dalek ships(This is the David Tennant annual). so this could mean loads of Daleks against the cybermen! Also I have a very strong feeling that the Genesis Ark is Davros. Also can u remember in the parting of the ways the ann droid didnt kill the 3 daleks, she shot then so they went to another part of the universe. Could these 3 gold daleks be them? I have a theory which probably isnt worth listeing to but here goes - I think that rose might regenarate because she looked into the heart of the TARDIS and nobody is supposed 2 do that! I will comment agen wen i hav mur info!

At the end of Army Of Ghosts, there are actualy 4 daleks. If you look close whne they come out there is one behind the front one.

that would explain why in the gallery on the official site, behind the cybermen there are 4 daleks. who's seen the trailer where the doctor says 'you won't see her again, you're own mother!' and rose replies 'i made my choice a long time ago and i'm not leaving you.'

Can I just say to Celtic Flame he killed Adeola. The black woman comes back to play someone else called Martha.

they've explained it's like gweneth, the servant girl from the unquiet dead, coming back to play gwenn cooper in torchwood

I reckon Rose dies and then at the end she is just skin like Cassandra!

HOW MANY TIMES?! AT THE START OF ARMY OF GHOSTS THAT'S HER TALKING IN PRESENT TIME! CREALY AS A HUMAN! ARGH!

GOD DAMN! WHAT A GOOD EPISODE! VERY SADENING AT THE END THEN FUNNY WHEN CATHERINE TAIT TURNED UP IN A WEDDING DRESS LOL

i never expected tht to happen

Doomsday was quite good but I couldn't help but feel a tad disappointed but the ending was spot on. I've heard a rumour the face of boe will reveal its secret in Series 3. I was half expecting the face of boe to reveal his secret during series two. Overall, a different season but in all honesty, I still have a soft spot for season one and christopher eccleston but David Tennant has grown on me over time. I'm looking forward to the christmas special and season 3.

Rob

I really hope Billie Piper does play some part in series 3 though, would be great for Rose and the Doctor to meet up just one last time...

I really hope Billie Piper does play some part in series 3 though, would be great for Rose and the Doctor to meet up just one last time...

I really hope Billie Piper does play some part in series 3 though, would be great for Rose and the Doctor to meet up just one last time...

didnt mean to post that post three times, browser was a bit slow

i've read somewhere that she's signed up for another few seasons
i hope so.

Nah she has properly left the programme, but i heard on Radio One that she would be appearing in the thrid series in some form.

Maybe Rose, Mickey, Parrelel Pete and Jakie find the parrelel doctor and his companion, parrelel Martha Jones and tell them about the parrelel universe and the doctor somehow gets them back, goes back to his universe and closes another gap he made. Then they go and live in the normal urniverse in Jakie's flat again.

But there may not be a parelel docter, like in the parrelel world rose was a dog.

and all the time lords weren't time lords in the parralel universe but little pieces of extra terrestrial bacteria in some far away galaxy... i can't believe he missed his chance to say 'i love you'!

But there has to be a parrelel doctor, otherwise there wouldn't be a parrelel torchwood. He might just travel alone though...

SHe does not die she in the parrel universe and there can't be a perrel docter because he is the last time lord ever

Duh it's last time lord in the universe. But in the parrelel uni, it might be the last TWO time lords, traveling together!

OMFG - it's spelt PARALLEL!!!

Oh well, at least I didn't say parrel lol

As doctor implies, there is a finite number of parallel universes, not only 2.

rose doesnt die but all of my team think they will bring her back as a last time load i know it make sound silly but that a good way of doing that, if the dalek are alive why cant some of the time load be, we think that will be better then letting rose leave and not come back for good, then the doctor and rose can travel around in time setting thing that once went worng right with his new friend 2 that will be better charmed ones love rose and the doctor and we hope to see more of the daleks are that more fun 2 love charmed one.

rose doesnt die but all of my team think they will bring her back as a last time load i know it make sound silly but that a good way of doing that, if the dalek are alive why cant some of the time load be, we think that will be better then letting rose leave and not come back for good, then the doctor and rose can travel around in time setting thing that once went worng right with his new friend 2 that will be better charmed ones love rose and the doctor and we hope to see more of the daleks are that more fun 2 love charmed one.

Would be great if the BBC could give the series an extra 15 minutes per episode. Have visions in my mindseye of Dalek on Cyberman action in the streets of London. Surely not impossible with CGI these days.

Damn good episode. Farewell Billie, U will be missed

Daleks would win, they win winning in doomsday

Docter who is my faveroite film in the world even tho its 1 hour i like the docter the best and the dalex and the cybermen the best and the docter all ways sorts out the rong stuff n rose is his trusty parnter. by alex pinnington

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Doomsday was a great episode but I didn't like it the way it only took the Doctor to get rid of about 5 million Cybermen and God knows how many Daleks.I have mixed feelings about Rose parting from Doctor Who but it was a great episode overall but not as big a cliffhanger as Russel T Davies made out. Have a look at my Doctor Who site. click on my name or follow this: www.gallifrey-guard.tk , its a bit out dated but i promise I will improve it loads as I've got a big break from work cumin up!

I hate it those billie pipper is leaving....i mean doctor who wont be the same i mean it the doctor and rose....not the doctor and kelly or jane ect...it just wont wotk!

It's kinda typical for doctor who though - a huge ginormous problem and he solves it in about three seconds with a really simple solution. But that's doctor who for you - it's about the relationship/friendship between him and rose (or was about that) not his problem solving capabilities! Devastated that Rose is leaving - think her shoes might be harder to fill than Christopher Eccleston's but if she comes back next season I will be happy, boarderline ecstatic. Loved Doomsday - there were tears. This season felt like it had more closure than the first - partly because we know Catherine T is only in it for the Christmas special and otherwise I don't think there are any real (official) teasers for next year - everything is speculation. Can't wait for the Christmas special!

I HATE Catherine Tate. She is not funny so heres hoping she does not ruin the Xmas special.

Amen to that!

i cried when doomsday was on i loved rose tyler on doctor

i like catherine tait
SO THERE!

I totally agree with that last one!

thankyou and goodday

does anybody use this page any more

sorry if i put u off but u started dissing catherine tate so i just like disagreed

OK she has a fan base. But really SHE IS NOT FUNNY. Mind U, Think I'm bovvered. How can U make a career out of that!!!!

Lets have someone off the wall as an assistant. Wot bout Caroline Aherene or Liza Tarbuck.....or bring back Sarah J Smith.

Over to U my fellow Whovians!!!

Perhaps some of you wee creeps should get a girlfriend. Its a sodding TV series. Losers

"Perhaps...should get a girlfriend"

It was my sister who said "I like catherine tait...thankyou...does anybody use this page..." and etc. Just pointing that out.

im not a lesbian

emm i like billie pipper she is realy nice and she's a good actress and all but if cathrin tate was the copanion i would never get bourd i will just keep on laufing. and i've been on the website of doctor who its realy good and all you have so much games on there

y did u take my comment off

Hi Bob;

Initially, the removal of your comment was an accident - I was removing spam comments, and yours got caught in the crossfire, as short single-line comments are often the hallmark of spam.

However, I just removed a second comment posted from your IP address under the name "crazy ivan", on the basis that it added nothing to the discussion. While I'm not intending to police the comments here with regard to anything but spam, I don't like the page filling up with nonsense either.

Thanks!
Drew.

hey everyone!
i cant wait till saturday....DOOMSDAY! ive been trying not to spoil for myself...just cause we r 6 months behind...i havent read all the posts...but my friend told me months ago....b4 school reunion that rose apparantly went into a vortex or something..she knows cause she has a friend whos a pom and burnt all the dvds of the series for her....5 DAYS TO GO!